Rise of the Blood Elves v3.0

[ImMikeGaming]

Awesome Campaign, one of my favorites so far

Just ended recording the last chapter, take a look if you are interested

All around well designed campaign from the lore to the heroes even the missions were awesome, only down side imo was that I was hoping to play more with naga race and Illidian. In contrast I loved that we coulda allied with Maiev and Burning Legion and even play as Akama and some of his units

 

[knight26]

Awesome Campaign, one of my favorites so far

Just ended recording the last chapter, take a look if you are interested

All around well designed campaign from the lore to the heroes even the missions were awesome, only down side imo was that I was hoping to play more with naga race and Illidian. In contrast I loved that we coulda allied with Maiev and Burning Legion and even play as Akama and some of his units

I actually watched that playthrough. Very thorugh and well played. There were some camera placement problems during interludes because of reforged models and some stuttering during some explosions but overall it looked great. Thanks for the effort

 

[ImMikeGaming]

I actually watched that playthrough. Very thorugh and well played. There were some camera placement problems during interludes because of reforged models and some stuttering during some explosions but overall it looked great. Thanks for the effort

One of the biggest problems is the camera placement during the cutscenes, I´ve had this problems in others campaigns but in general the Mod is very consistent and is working very well.
Im Trying It out next with the Curse Of The Forsaken Campaign next!

 

[knight26]

One of the biggest problems is the camera placement during the cutscenes, I´ve had this problems in others campaigns but in general the Mod is very consistent and is working very well.
Im Trying It out next with the Curse Of The Forsaken Campaign next!

Great. I'd also like to see you play The Chosen Ones, but I know that one is a mess to get it to work.

 

[ImMikeGaming]

Great. I'd also like to see you play The Chosen Ones, but I know that one is a mess to get it to work.

Have to try that one out too. Surely gonna take a look after I´m done with Curse Of The Forsaken!

 

[Regeneration]

Great. I'd also like to see you play The Chosen Ones, but I know that one is a mess to get it to work.

Why? It works fine for me with version 1.27b.

For the campaign: I replayed it after a long time and it was really good. I mean the missions design could be a bit better and it is boring to defend for 30 minutes. Even though it was not so easy and I needed a few attempts. But in the end if you play your heroes correctly, it is no problem at all. Alessandra's & Aewynne's third skill are boring. I wish it would be two active skills but something different than giving raw damage or raw attack speed. They both fit more the role of a spell caster in my opinion. At least I played them so. I very much liked that you saw the husband and daughter of Alessandra. Really nice touch for those who read the short story! And it came totally unexpected.

4/5.

 

[ZumRo]

one of the best campaigns always wanted to know what happened after frozen throne <3 for now, I have reforged the version so is it possible now to play it on reforge?

 

[Dord96]

one of the best campaigns always wanted to know what happened after frozen throne <3 for now, I have reforged the version so is it possible now to play it on reforge?

yes but it looks really bad in reforged with custom models of classic models ,
unless some one will creacte reforged models icons and buffes and effects for the campaign in reforged

 

[Ravager16829]

one of the best campaigns always wanted to know what happened after frozen throne <3 for now, I have reforged the version so is it possible now to play it on reforge?

Some campaigns are only compatible with non-Reforged WC3, but I guess they will add the support for HD models once 1.35 patch had gone gold.
For now, this campaign is only best to be playable on 1.28.5.

 

[Raven80]

Ok, patch 1.35 is alive, and with it: custom campaigns. Now i wonder... i know that tomoraider will probably never return to custom campaigns again, or will update them, but maybe with collaboration with some trustworthy person that is skilled with wc editor at least his campaigns could get an update for latest patch
it would be a hude waste and shame to left these masterpieces to die like that

 

[deepstrasz]

Ok, patch 1.35 is alive, and with it: custom campaigns. Now i wonder... i know that tomoraider will probably never return to custom campaigns again, or will update them, but maybe with collaboration with some trustworthy person that is skilled with wc editor at least his campaigns could get an update for latest patch
it would be a hude waste and shame to left these masterpieces to die like that

The problem with "update them" is that authors should not be forced to fix bugs every time a new patch comes out so that their work would not die out. The main respect should come from Blizzard, not the authors in this context.

 

[tomoraider]

Additionally, these campaigns nor any other similar project are "dead" simply because of a new patch. Anyone can install an older patch to play them. A bit inconvenient, but all it requires is a bit of googling. As far as installing and playing custom/modded content goes, Warcraft 3 is fairly simple.

 

[Nobel Massina Arben]

Additionally, these campaigns nor any other similar project are "dead" simply because of a new patch. Anyone can install an older patch to play them. A bit inconvenient, but all it requires is a bit of googling. As far as installing and playing custom/modded content goes, Warcraft 3 is fairly simple.

Hello Tomoraiders ! I hope you are healthy and well! May I ask you about Rise of the Blood Elves?

 

[Raven80]

The problem with "update them" is that authors should not be forced to fix bugs every time a new patch comes out so that their work would not die out. The main respect should come from Blizzard, not the authors in this context.

Yeah, I completely understand, it was just nostalgia talking through me, i remembered all the good time playing these campaigns. If i sounded offensive or arrogant, my deepest apologies

Additionally, these campaigns nor any other similar project are "dead" simply because of a new patch. Anyone can install an older patch to play them. A bit inconvenient, but all it requires is a bit of googling. As far as installing and playing custom/modded content goes, Warcraft 3 is fairly simple.

I know I know, its just so frustrating and sometimes annoying to keep 3 or 4 different versions of WC3 just to enjoy and return to custom campaigns i collected and enjoyed over the years, some of them constantly updated, some ocasionaly and some not at all. Of course its not your fault, or any creators fault, but it would be fine to pick the map and play it without figuring out which version of wc3 i need, how to get it and make it work :/
Anyway, i am really glad you answered and are still around here somewhere

 

[Jayborino]

I can confirm this works on Reforged and previous versions all the way back to 1.27. The only severe version-related issue I found on my recent playthrough is on Mission 3. The enemy sends an unintentionally large force at you right away at the end holdout on version 1.31 (and presumably onwards). On 1.30.4 and prior, that section works as intended. No idea what changed between these two versions to cause that to happen! Anyways, I would recommend 1.30.4 for this campaign but the newest version of WC3 works fine. Users don't have to jump through any versioning hoops to play it. Fixes for a potential update could include addressing the aforementioned Mission 3 issue for the latest game version, fixing the Blood Knight model as they appear as Night Elves in the versions I tested things on (they are correct in CotF), and addressing dialogue speed/minor errors. Otherwise, this campaign is still chef's kiss.

As I mentioned in the CotF thread, I recently replayed RotBE on 1.30.4 and it holds up very well. The hardest map is definitely the Black Temple one as that was the most recent addition back in 2017 and you can see the CotF difficulty curve evolution applied to it. The secret to the early maps where you have to defend against enemy Golems are Arcane Towers! I know I have fawned over this campaign a lot over the years. The story creatively retells TBC from a unique perspective that lacks the WoW player character and the difficulty seems like the perfect step up from the vanilla campaigns' Hard. Having just replayed RotBE, I still think it is easily one of the best custom campaigns that functions as a cornerstone to the community. I plan on doing the same with CotF, but may wait if an update could actually happen. No pressure though

 

[tomoraider]

I can confirm this works on Reforged and previous versions all the way back to 1.27. The only severe version-related issue I found on my recent playthrough is on Mission 3. The enemy sends an unintentionally large force at you right away at the end holdout on version 1.31 (and presumably onwards). On 1.30.4 and prior, that section works as intended. No idea what changed between these two versions to cause that to happen! Anyways, I would recommend 1.30.4 for this campaign but the newest version of WC3 works fine. Users don't have to jump through any versioning hoops to play it. Fixes for a potential update could include addressing the aforementioned Mission 3 issue for the latest game version, fixing the Blood Knight model as they appear as Night Elves in the versions I tested things on (they are correct in CotF), and addressing dialogue speed/minor errors. Otherwise, this campaign is still chef's kiss.

As I mentioned in the CotF thread, I recently replayed RotBE on 1.30.4 and it holds up very well. The hardest map is definitely the Black Temple one as that was the most recent addition back in 2017 and you can see the CotF difficulty curve evolution applied to it. The secret to the early maps where you have to defend against enemy Golems are Arcane Towers! I know I have fawned over this campaign a lot over the years. The story creatively retells TBC from a unqiue perspective that lacks the WoW player character and the difficulty seems like the perfect step up from the vanilla campaigns' Hard. Having just replayed RotBE, I still think it is easily one of the best custom campaigns that functions as a cornerstone to the community. I plan on doing the same with CotF, but may wait if an update could actually happen. No pressure though

Thanks so much for your feedback! THe CH3 issue is likely some AI fail, but good to know there's an issue there. I think the Black Temple map is definitely a bit too overwhelming, I think I would like to tone it down a bit, or at least leave it as it is for the hard difficulty, given RotBE lacks variable difficulties. Although I still remember that original version where Khadgar respawned practically immediately, that was brutal.

And thank you for your kind words! I always really enjoyed watching your playthrough of my campaigns. I am glad people like these campaigns, they definitely deserve some updates, and I'll try to do that. But I think you're free to play CotF, if and when I do an update for CotF, it won't be anything more but fixing some camera angles and typos and such. The only thing that's severely broken - I think - are the custom loading screens, but otherwise, I don't think CotF needs any changes at all.

Just to add, it's flattering to hear your opinion on the campaign's story, because when I look at it I find that it hasn't aged quite so well. I am probably too self-critical, but for example, I find that I now dislike the Alessandra and Aewynne's rebellion plotline. While it does kind of portray Alessandra as ruthless, I don't think the blood elves would be willing to kill each other so easily over that issue. Additionally, it makes Liadrin appear overzealous and Lor'themar somewhat gullible. I also don't like the way Anveena or Illidan or the draenei get involved without any prior build-up. But, to be fair to myself, I was much younger then, and I am happy with what it is, but there's definitely lots of potential to make it even better. However... not gonna lie, a part of me does love the randomness of it all and the way I just did it the way I wanted without being so critical.

 

[Jayborino]

However... not gonna lie, a part of me does love the randomness of it all and the way I just did it the way I wanted without being so critical.

It's hard to describe, but there is some sort of lightning in a bottle nostalgia that goes along with this loose (for lack of a better term) storytelling. It harkens back to an age of RTS where the technology did not exist to give the player many details and there was an understanding that folks would use their imaginations to fill in the gaps. WC3 still exists on the edge of that space, which is why I think the randomness and jumping around still works.

Aewynne fainting is hammy, but it's not like you can express more subtle emotion or facial expressions in WC3. The player should know what it's conveying even if a bit silly. The floaty loyalties and rebellions always felt ok to me in service of map diversity that was needed, such as Aewynne siding with Kael'thas for a couple maps. The unlikely three hero team that comes together in the finale is fun to me after they had personality clashes through the earlier missions. Map 3 had a side objective to not kill where possible, which expresses an appropriate level of reluctance to the player. Kalecgos and Anveena appearing abruptly with no introduction or fanfare is because the player can be trusted by now to know the WoW TBC context of the campaign.

I guess I'm making excuses that apply to a bygone age where we all used our imaginations a lot more to tolerate shortcomings. I have also played a lot of campaigns with poorly conveyed stories. Things can always be polished up and tweaked, but something about this one still just works even if floaty and abrupt at times. I'm sure your time growing as a writer makes the inconsistencies stand out a lot more to you too, I understand!

 

[tomoraider]

It's hard to describe, but there is some sort of lightning in a bottle nostalgia that goes along with this loose (for lack of a better term) storytelling. It harkens back to an age of RTS where the technology did not exist to give the player many details and there was an understanding that folks would use their imaginations to fill in the gaps. WC3 still exists on the edge of that space, which is why I think the randomness and jumping around still works...

I completely agree with everything you said. I remember reading one of my favoriters writers (Joe Abercrombie) say something like, he misses this feeling of not caring (or not knowing better) he had when writing his first fantasy trilogy because nowadays, he's much more self-critical and self-aware of what he "should" be doing. And you can tell when you read it, the first trilogy has just a bit of randomness to it that makes it feel very genuine, whereas his newer books, as good as they are, feel more "planned", as if there is a specific purpose to everything.

That's kind of a similar feeling I have which you described very well here. I think that might be part of my reluctance to give this campaign another big update. While I do think some changes to the story, characters and gameplay would give it a more serious sense and flow that CotF v3.0 has, I am quite fond of what it currently is, especially with the points you brought up. I think a lot of people actually responded quite well to that. I guess, at the end of the day, the campaign hit all the right points, especially in the context of what a blood elf campaign could or should be, that it was a fun and satisfying experience despite all the shortcomings.

Also, I forgot about Aewynne fainting! The obvious solution there is just to have her not faint and let her guard down, but her fainting is just absolutely hilarious.

 

[ZodiackTV]

Kargath is stuck on Vashj's side of the base. I tried skipping cutscene and letting it go... and he's just... there. I am pretty sure it's one of the cool bugs Reforged introduced.

 

[HuanJuan]

Here is a comment, under your fantastic campaign, because it's needed to give you 5 star, instead all of them from the sky.

 

[VanAndro]

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I find the reporting of game bugs here and elsewhere for versions of WC3 that they are NOT intended for to be inappropriate.
The direct or indirect pressure to upgrade games to Reforged is too harsh! Everywhere!
You needlessly dilute the topic and spoil my enjoyment of reading comments. Thanks to Hiveworkshop for finding a solution to this bug.

Everything done right for Wc3 up to v.1.24 runs smoothly on v.1.27; those for 1.28-29 run smoothly on 1.30; those for 1.31 you play at 1.31; Reforged games are played on Reforged. Even if there are some bugs, they don't hinder the game or ruin the entire gameplay. Is it that hard to understand - YES! And now I will prove it to you.

See now this screenshot from Reforged above my comment. Look at it VEEERY CAREFULLY! Does it have something to do with Reforged's graphics? Yes - health and mana bar. What's the point of playing these campaigns on Reforged then? To play a game with bugs instead of playing a game with no bugs. Come on now, answer the question for yourself: Do I think I'm smart? Am I really being smart? Because I don't have 5-6 GB free hard disk space to install 1.27, 1.30 and 1.31 now the whole mission goes to hell! Very smart! "Ooo Noo this switching between versions is very inconvenient - it takes too much effort". "But I don't know where and how to install these versions" - do you know about Google? - hmm.....maybe but it takes effort. Can you read? - yes, but this also requires effort. Information enters the Information Processing Center (IPC) through: eyes, ears and sensory sensations (touch and feelings). After you almost don't submit data to IPC, it stops working and you are only described as a rational being in the thick and very old books. As of today, you are not only unreasonable but also backward. How are you not ashamed? I know how - the relevant information is missing in the IPC.

Suggestion to Hiveworkshop: remove requirements for authors to describe the game. Most don't read this. Let the description be in free form, but the requirement for a Recommended version must remain. Still, some of us can and want to read.

Proposal 2: Bug reports should only be made for the version for which the game is intended. The rest to rub without warning (EXAMPLE The Heart of Storms: Dusk of Draenor (Public Beta) If you read the comments you will find bug reports from various versions of Wc3. The game is for 1.27. What was most interesting to me is that the creators of the game were responding that they fixed some bug for 1.31 another bug for 1.27 a third for 1.29 After all which version are they trying to stabilize? - the whole Wc3 anthology?) If the author wants to know how the game behaves on other versions, he can create a separate topic if he wishes and indicate it in the description. In this way, the necessary information will be much more concise and will be found much faster instead of 15 pages repeating 5 questions in different ways. To allow authors to delete comments that are not intended for the relevant topic. I don't mind HIVE doing that job too if you can handle it.

Proposal 3 New complete renovation of the site: The site should have only pictures, icons, buttons and their title or what they are for. In any case, at least 75% of the traffic is from people who don't read and only click on them. While it's impossible for it to happen, it's pretty fun for me to imagine

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[tomoraider]

I don't mind if people report bugs for the versions of the game the campaign was not made for. It's useful info if and when I decide to update the campaign. Creating a separate topic would be overcomplicating, in my opinion, as these campaigns don't get that many posts anyway. I think the majority of people who play custom content approach it with a certain amount of leeway, and if they post their thoughts and feedback they generally do it with the understanding the campaign will have issues if they are playing on the wrong version.

If someone ignores the info in the description and asks the same question that's been asked before, it's on them. I don't find it inappropriate or disrespectful, maybe just a bit bemusing, and I don't think that should be cause for authors not to post any instructions, that would just cause more confusion. We should do our best regardless of those who may ignore the instructions.

 

[HuanJuan]

I don't mind if people report bugs for the versions of the game the campaign was not made for. It's useful info if and when I decide to update the campaign. Creating a separate topic would be overcomplicating, in my opinion, as these campaigns don't get that many posts anyway. I think the majority of people who play custom content approach it with a certain amount of leeway, and if they post their thoughts and feedback they generally do it with the understanding the campaign will have issues if they are playing on the wrong version.

If someone ignores the info in the description and asks the same question that's been asked before, it's on them. I don't find it inappropriate or disrespectful, maybe just a bit bemusing, and I don't think that should be cause for authors not to post any instructions, that would just cause more confusion. We should do our best regardless of those who may ignore the instructions.

Oh, so you want to have a bug report? I'm your guy here! I hope you get what you wished now!
I played with WC3 TFT 1.27b.

Here in the description, one picture is missing.

Spoiler: Bugs

General Non-chapter specific bugs:

• Phoenix mystic creatures: if they are catched with Aerial Shackles: they cannot "die" to transform themselfs ino eggs, they are basically unkillable in this form. Same with Engulfing Chains (Alessandra ability). Phoenix is suppose to be have an Upgradeable armor & attack or not? Because they don't have upgradeable armor & attack.
• Aewynne Maysong ability to make invisible (30s duration) her and the other units in a certain radius is not working all the time, and there are units that can't be make this spell invisible - Spellbreakers are example -. The Spellbreakers are my units, and they can't be "cloaked".

Chapter 4
- North and the North Eastern mage with Golem parts: If you go first to defeat and get the part from the North Eastern mage, than you cannot acquire it properly: it's in the inventory, but not fused together with the other parts if you have. You must go and get it to the north one - Green Undead Base, Der'Khan base - to properly acquire and to be counted as a part, because that part sure fuse together with the others if you have. I got this problem only with the Northern Mage, when I killed it, and when I picked up the part, it counted as a seperate part, and the quest log even not updated.

Chapter 10
- Warden faction doing nothing after their Liberation from prisonment. Wisps only builded a Tree of Life, and they are on the woods or doing nothing. Warden faction units are basically homecamping.

Spoiler: My opinions on things from this campaign

Chapter 10
I think the Fel Reaver model is not the best to be chosen, for the purpose. I played lot of campaigns, and when I discovered the "Fel Reaver", I was saying "So the demons now have Holy Golems at their disposal?" I don't know what is your Fel Reaver looked like in your imagination, but for my view: there is a lot of alternative in Hive, I recommend to check out. It's not an earth shaking thing, but for that, that thing is certainly looking like a Holy Golem.

Chapter 11
Why the Kael'thalas Loyalist base (Yellow) are not supposed to be destroyed by Illidan's Forces? I mean, I know as a player, I need to kill the Phoenix God, but after that: why in the hell I should not want the Loyalist forces to be destroyed by my other enemy, if the secondary objective is going to wipe out the Loyalist forces?! I mean, I was shocked and I did what I can as Fast as I can, and then... "So I rushed to do everything to destroy that god, just to wipe out the other base by me?". Fun Fact: I did some siege on that base, and let Illidan's Forces to destroy the remaining base. I don't liked this, but OK. There is no need to change it, it's only made me mad a bit, but nothing earth shaking happened.

That's all for the time beign from my memories-

 

[Jayborino]

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I find the reporting of game bugs here and elsewhere for versions of WC3 that they are NOT intended for to be inappropriate.
The direct or indirect pressure to upgrade games to Reforged is too harsh! Everywhere!
You needlessly dilute the topic and spoil my enjoyment of reading comments. Thanks to Hiveworkshop for finding a solution to this bug.

Everything done right for Wc3 up to v.1.24 runs smoothly on v.1.27; those for 1.28-29 run smoothly on 1.30; those for 1.31 you play at 1.31; Reforged games are played on Reforged. Even if there are some bugs, they don't hinder the game or ruin the entire gameplay. Is it that hard to understand - YES! And now I will prove it to you.

See now this screenshot from Reforged above my comment. Look at it VEEERY CAREFULLY! Does it have something to do with Reforged's graphics? Yes - health and mana bar. What's the point of playing these campaigns on Reforged then? To play a game with bugs instead of playing a game with no bugs. Come on now, answer the question for yourself: Do I think I'm smart? Am I really being smart? Because I don't have 5-6 GB free hard disk space to install 1.27, 1.30 and 1.31 now the whole mission goes to hell! Very smart! "Ooo Noo this switching between versions is very inconvenient - it takes too much effort". "But I don't know where and how to install these versions" - do you know about Google? - hmm.....maybe but it takes effort. Can you read? - yes, but this also requires effort. Information enters the Information Processing Center (IPC) through: eyes, ears and sensory sensations (touch and feelings). After you almost don't submit data to IPC, it stops working and you are only described as a rational being in the thick and very old books. As of today, you are not only unreasonable but also backward. How are you not ashamed? I know how - the relevant information is missing in the IPC.

Suggestion to Hiveworkshop: remove requirements for authors to describe the game. Most don't read this. Let the description be in free form, but the requirement for a Recommended version must remain. Still, some of us can and want to read.

Proposal 2: Bug reports should only be made for the version for which the game is intended. The rest to rub without warning (EXAMPLE The Heart of Storms: Dusk of Draenor (Public Beta) If you read the comments you will find bug reports from various versions of Wc3. The game is for 1.27. What was most interesting to me is that the creators of the game were responding that they fixed some bug for 1.31 another bug for 1.27 a third for 1.29 After all which version are they trying to stabilize? - the whole Wc3 anthology?) If the author wants to know how the game behaves on other versions, he can create a separate topic if he wishes and indicate it in the description. In this way, the necessary information will be much more concise and will be found much faster instead of 15 pages repeating 5 questions in different ways. To allow authors to delete comments that are not intended for the relevant topic. I don't mind HIVE doing that job too if you can handle it.

Proposal 3 New complete renovation of the site: The site should have only pictures, icons, buttons and their title or what they are for. In any case, at least 75% of the traffic is from people who don't read and only click on them. While it's impossible for it to happen, it's pretty fun for me to imagine

I genuinely can't tell if this is an elaborate troll post or not. I agree with the core point, but this is one of the best/most funny unhinged comments I've ever seen.

 

[Shar Dundred]

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I find the reporting of game bugs here and elsewhere for versions of WC3 that they are NOT intended for to be inappropriate.
The direct or indirect pressure to upgrade games to Reforged is too harsh! Everywhere!
You needlessly dilute the topic and spoil my enjoyment of reading comments. Thanks to Hiveworkshop for finding a solution to this bug.

Everything done right for Wc3 up to v.1.24 runs smoothly on v.1.27; those for 1.28-29 run smoothly on 1.30; those for 1.31 you play at 1.31; Reforged games are played on Reforged. Even if there are some bugs, they don't hinder the game or ruin the entire gameplay. Is it that hard to understand - YES! And now I will prove it to you.

See now this screenshot from Reforged above my comment. Look at it VEEERY CAREFULLY! Does it have something to do with Reforged's graphics? Yes - health and mana bar. What's the point of playing these campaigns on Reforged then? To play a game with bugs instead of playing a game with no bugs. Come on now, answer the question for yourself: Do I think I'm smart? Am I really being smart? Because I don't have 5-6 GB free hard disk space to install 1.27, 1.30 and 1.31 now the whole mission goes to hell! Very smart! "Ooo Noo this switching between versions is very inconvenient - it takes too much effort". "But I don't know where and how to install these versions" - do you know about Google? - hmm.....maybe but it takes effort. Can you read? - yes, but this also requires effort. Information enters the Information Processing Center (IPC) through: eyes, ears and sensory sensations (touch and feelings). After you almost don't submit data to IPC, it stops working and you are only described as a rational being in the thick and very old books. As of today, you are not only unreasonable but also backward. How are you not ashamed? I know how - the relevant information is missing in the IPC.

Suggestion to Hiveworkshop: remove requirements for authors to describe the game. Most don't read this. Let the description be in free form, but the requirement for a Recommended version must remain. Still, some of us can and want to read.

Proposal 2: Bug reports should only be made for the version for which the game is intended. The rest to rub without warning (EXAMPLE The Heart of Storms: Dusk of Draenor (Public Beta) If you read the comments you will find bug reports from various versions of Wc3. The game is for 1.27. What was most interesting to me is that the creators of the game were responding that they fixed some bug for 1.31 another bug for 1.27 a third for 1.29 After all which version are they trying to stabilize? - the whole Wc3 anthology?) If the author wants to know how the game behaves on other versions, he can create a separate topic if he wishes and indicate it in the description. In this way, the necessary information will be much more concise and will be found much faster instead of 15 pages repeating 5 questions in different ways. To allow authors to delete comments that are not intended for the relevant topic. I don't mind HIVE doing that job too if you can handle it.

Proposal 3 New complete renovation of the site: The site should have only pictures, icons, buttons and their title or what they are for. In any case, at least 75% of the traffic is from people who don't read and only click on them. While it's impossible for it to happen, it's pretty fun for me to imagine

TLDR: I am too lazy to read so Hive should deal with that for me.

Also: Wrong forum. Please make your post in Suggestions.

 

[VanAndro]

I genuinely can't tell if this is an elaborate troll post or not. I agree with the core point, but this is one of the best/most funny unhinged comments I've ever seen.

Would comedy be comedy if it were perfectly thought out? This could be looked at from more than 2 points of view, so the answer to this question is not easy for me. I'm glad I brought some surprising joy to your day. Keep reading.

TLDR: I am too lazy to read so Hive should deal with that for me.

Also: Wrong forum. Please make your post in Suggestions.

"TLDR: I am too lazy to read so Hive should deal with that for me." - Our perfect candidate for proposition number 3.The warning was given clearly enough. Now it's your own fault! Thank you for making me laugh once again. It takes courage and a dose of self-awareness to admit something like that in this case. Therefore, your IPC has the mandatory minimum of data. When HIVE accepts the Proposal 3 they will look for you to be the first to test the new site. Still, there will need to be reasonable feedback early on while the site is being built.

"Also: Wrong forum. Please make your post in Suggestions." - Also:

1. The warning was given clearly enough. Now it's your own fault!
2. My post is related not only to this topic (Rise of the Blood Elves) but also to many other campaign topics around the site. The essential difference is that most places have 1-2 to 5-7 pages of (raw) reading material and my cup is quite large and 5-7 pages cannot fill it to overflowing. If you think I'm going to start posting this everywhere where it is needed, you're wrong. Also, when only a fraction of this Summary is given above it will not have this strong impact. And the goal is high impact to IPC overload.
3. Proposals are a natural consequence of the already overflowing cup. They have a responsible as well as a frivolous-funny-absurd character. If you wish, you can give them where they are needed for me - I authorize you. But if they accept Proposal 3, this will cost a lot (the idea is mine after all!)! Proof of that: Windows 11. To understand this proof requires deep knowledge of the Invisible part of the system + extensive experience of working with clients who use it (with missing even basic knowledge of working with any version of Windows. Things are not much different with Apple). Put simply: if it's not on the Desktop, it doesn't exist. And what's on the Desktop? - just icons of course. But not to elaborate any further.

 

[Ardenaso]

what the fuck

 

[tomoraider]

Sir, this is a wendy's

 

[Dancyspartan]

On Chapter three, at the end of the mission with the countdown timer, I have a total of about 10 units. In comes an army of a level 5 hero with AoE healing, dragonhawk rider, 2 catapults, 4 melee dudes, 4 priests a bunch of archers and sorcerers.

It is literally mathematically impossible to survive. Is the campaign just shit and everyone cheated past this section, or am I stupid and is missing something? Also, the arches cover the screen forcing to zoom in. Destroying the Arcane Vault to remove the Light barrier is in no way obvious - if there is "dialogue" explaining it then I missed it twice over because I was too focused on combat to read. The friendly AI completely breaks at random points, and continues to build up to 10 units then send them all into a wall.

I think I'm giving up on this one. I'm not a fan of having to cheat the gameplay to experience the at best high-school level writing.


ALSO: The selection model for some custom buildings aren't tuned right. It is a very simple thing to do in the editor. Leading to not being able to for example force build with the elven peasants on some models. Also it just makes selecting the buildings before control grouping them annoying.

How has this campaign been out for ten years and a 2 minute simple fix hasn't been done?
Is this what a 5 star campaign is?

The first two missions are okay I guess. The clan gimmick on level 2 could be interesting, but its implementation is-- sloppy.

 

[gaurdian of the flame]

On Chapter three, at the end of the mission with the countdown timer, I have a total of about 10 units. In comes an army of a level 5 hero with AoE healing, dragonhawk rider, 2 catapults, 4 melee dudes, 4 priests a bunch of archers and sorcerers.

It is literally mathematically impossible to survive. Is the campaign just shit and everyone cheated past this section, or am I stupid and is missing something? Also, the arches cover the screen forcing to zoom in. Destroying the Arcane Vault to remove the Light barrier is in no way obvious - if there is "dialogue" explaining it then I missed it twice over because I was too focused on combat to read. The friendly AI completely breaks at random points, and continues to build up to 10 units then send them all into a wall.

I think I'm giving up on this one. I'm not a fan of having to cheat the gameplay to experience the at best high-school level writing.


ALSO: The selection model for some custom buildings aren't tuned right. It is a very simple thing to do in the editor. Leading to not being able to for example force build with the elven peasants on some models. Also it just makes selecting the buildings before control grouping them annoying.

How has this campaign been out for ten years and a 2 minute simple fix hasn't been done?
Is this what a 5 star campaign is?

The first two missions are okay I guess. The clan gimmick on level 2 could be interesting, but its implementation is-- dikd

didn t you use the buildings you to have to build units so you can survive i mean after you gain control over that keep you gain also a two barracks to build units from and yes you can t survive if you didn t build units

 

[HuanJuan]

didn t you use the buildings you to have to build units so you can survive i mean after you gain control over that keep you gain also a two barracks to build units from and yes you can t survive if you didn t build units

I hoped someone discover, the user playing with the campaign under REFORGED. Look at the picture, where you can find 1-2 heores: the level - health & mana bar combination. It's reforged. Please, leave the user alone. The user does not understand the concept of "Recommended version".

 

[Dancyspartan]

I hoped someone discover, the user playing with the campaign under REFORGED. Look at the picture, where you can find 1-2 heores: the level - health & mana bar combination. It's reforged. Please, leave the user alone. The user does not understand the concept of "Recommended version".

There we have it.

I knew I must be at fault. Played the Scourge campaign a couple of years back and loved it. I was absolutely confused as to why this poor quality receives the same kind of praise.

Welp, I'll run it back tomorrow on the recommended version. Excuse me for my absolute salt and ignorance - I'm a dumb-dumb.

//Dancy

 

[HuanJuan]

There we have it.

I knew I must be at fault. Played the Scourge campaign a couple of years back and loved it. I was absolutely confused as to why this poor quality receives the same kind of praise.

Welp, I'll run it back tomorrow on the recommended version. Excuse me for my absolute salt and ignorance - I'm a dumb-dumb.

//Dancy

Sorry for my rude and arrogant answer of your problem, I'm just very annoyed with the question. When you are not playing on the same version of the recommended, you can experience problems. Reforged is good in some perspective, but it's far for beign an universal all-in-one WC3 client, and some people are does not understand it. You can pay for things, but it's not guarantee that going to be work 100% right, especially in the now-days Video Game Industry.

 

[Dancyspartan]

Sorry for my rude and arrogant answer of your problem, I'm just very annoyed with the question. When you are not playing on the same version of the recommended, you can experience problems. Reforged is good in some perspective, but it's far for beign an universal all-in-one WC3 client, and some people are does not understand it. You can pay for things, but it's not guarantee that going to be work 100% right, especially in the now-days Video Game Industry.

No-no, if anything you went easy on me. I'll strike out and type out a review tomorrow on the correct version. I downloaded 1.27b today to play The Hart of Storms. Running multiple clients - no problem really.

I'm new to the whole Reforged-Classic split where some functionalities do not work, some maps are to be played on Reforged through campaign, some through custom games etc. etc. vis á vis the custom campaigns scene. So I was quite confused when the map worked but seemed.... wrong?

I love the custom campaigns this wonderful community has produced throughout the years. I'm still here playing 20 years later!

 

[HuanJuan]

No-no, if anything you went easy on me. I'll strike out and type out a review tomorrow on the correct version. I downloaded 1.27b today to play The Hart of Storms. Running multiple clients - no problem really.

I'm new to the whole Reforged-Classic split where some functionalities do not work, some maps are to be played on Reforged through campaign, some through custom games etc. etc. vis á vis the custom campaigns scene. So I was quite confused when the map worked but seemed.... wrong?

I love the custom campaigns this wonderful community has produced throughout the years. I'm still here playing 20 years later!

20 years?! Wow man! That's awesome! I only know WC3 like 3-4 years from now, but man, you can have quite the tales about how this game evolved with the patches and so on.

WC3 Reforged compatibility is not very good with earlier maps and campaigns. Only Reforged maps & campaigns are working very well with it, and only maps & campaigns that are recommended to play with Reforged by their Authors (Medmapguy was made some of their campaigns and maps compatible with reforged not too long ago, check it out - I recommend them).

Furthermore: Reforged is when updated, can make maps & campaigns uncompatible (triggers and other stuff does not work after update, game breaking bugs, blue death crash for windows, etc.). So it's a gamble always when an update comes, it's only hope that the devs does not changed or did anything "improvement" with Reforged.

Sometimes Reforged do work pretty well with maps & campaigns without any problems, so your hopes was not camed from thin air. It's a gamble, really.

 

[gaurdian of the flame]

I hoped someone discover, the user playing with the campaign under REFORGED. Look at the picture, where you can find 1-2 heores: the level - health & mana bar combination. It's reforged. Please, leave the user alone. The user does not understand the concept of "Recommended version".

hmmm i didn t think about looking at the pictures if i looked at them i would have noticed that sry its my fault

 

[tomoraider]

I think I'm giving up on this one. I'm not a fan of having to cheat the gameplay to experience the at best high-school level writing.

What, you're not enjoying the poorly-reasoned rebellion, villainous monologues and overdramatic music!? But you are right, actually. I was in high school when I first made this campaign, so it is what it is. I still think it's good for what I knew about writing back then. It's got a lot of fun moments, but generally the story is just okay.

And yes, as mentioned, the campaign has issues on Reforged, especially the enemy AI. There are instances where it simply sends all its unit to immediately attack you. That's what you experienced. There's lots of other things I've wanted to change and update over the years, including the writing, unfortunately I just never got around to it.

 

[Legion5]

Hey,
i enjoyed playing through the campaign; there was excitement and epics.
Perhaps u could now add ai voice to the dialogues. that wolud leave a new impression in it, but thats just my guess.

 

[K.GamingPlays]

View attachment 424302
Kargath is stuck on Vashj's side of the base. I tried skipping cutscene and letting it go... and he's just... there. I am pretty sure it's one of the cool bugs Reforged introduced.

just press esc before the chapter start and ignore the talking and it will be okay

 

[K.GamingPlays]

I have started Rise of the Blood Elves in Reforged and its amaizing

 

[K.GamingPlays]

hi Tomoraider i whant to ask is there gona be a full reforged version of this campaign ?

 

[K.GamingPlays]

On Chapter three, at the end of the mission with the countdown timer, I have a total of about 10 units. In comes an army of a level 5 hero with AoE healing, dragonhawk rider, 2 catapults, 4 melee dudes, 4 priests a bunch of archers and sorcerers.

It is literally mathematically impossible to survive. Is the campaign just shit and everyone cheated past this section, or am I stupid and is missing something? Also, the arches cover the screen forcing to zoom in. Destroying the Arcane Vault to remove the Light barrier is in no way obvious - if there is "dialogue" explaining it then I missed it twice over because I was too focused on combat to read. The friendly AI completely breaks at random points, and continues to build up to 10 units then send them all into a wall.

I think I'm giving up on this one. I'm not a fan of having to cheat the gameplay to experience the at best high-school level writing.


ALSO: The selection model for some custom buildings aren't tuned right. It is a very simple thing to do in the editor. Leading to not being able to for example force build with the elven peasants on some models. Also it just makes selecting the buildings before control grouping them annoying.

How has this campaign been out for ten years and a 2 minute simple fix hasn't been done?
Is this what a 5 star campaign is?

The first two missions are okay I guess. The clan gimmick on level 2 could be interesting,

On Chapter three, at the end of the mission with the countdown timer, I have a total of about 10 units. In comes an army of a level 5 hero with AoE healing, dragonhawk rider, 2 catapults, 4 melee dudes, 4 priests a bunch of archers and sorcerers.

It is literally mathematically impossible to survive. Is the campaign just shit and everyone cheated past this section, or am I stupid and is missing something? Also, the arches cover the screen forcing to zoom in. Destroying the Arcane Vault to remove the Light barrier is in no way obvious - if there is "dialogue" explaining it then I missed it twice over because I was too focused on combat to read. The friendly AI completely breaks at random points, and continues to build up to 10 units then send them all into a wall.

I think I'm giving up on this one. I'm not a fan of having to cheat the gameplay to experience the at best high-school level writing.


ALSO: The selection model for some custom buildings aren't tuned right. It is a very simple thing to do in the editor. Leading to not being able to for example force build with the elven peasants on some models. Also it just makes selecting the buildings before control grouping them annoying.

How has this campaign been out for ten years and a 2 minute simple fix hasn't been done?
Is this what a 5 star campaign is?

The first two missions are okay I guess. The clan gimmick on level 2 could be interesting, but its implementation is-- sloppy.

As far as i renember when i played this chapter a fiew years ago it was very esay to play that last part but now its immposible this chapter need to be redone and fix those army attacks

 

[Dancyspartan]

As far as i renember when i played this chapter a fiew years ago it was very esay to play that last part but now its immposible this chapter need to be redone and fix those army attacks

Yeah it turns out that this campaign is not updated for Reforged. Which means you need Patch 1.27 or patch 1.28 installed to play it. Things break in the reforged version.

 

[Ravager16829]

hi Tomoraider i whant to ask is there gona be a full reforged version of this campaign ?

Yeah it turns out that this campaign is not updated for Reforged. Which means you need Patch 1.27 or patch 1.28 installed to play it. Things break in the reforged version.

Currently, you can only play this campaign with game version at least on 1.28.5. Same goes for the Forsaken.
Version higher than 1.28.5 has known issues where important triggers not working after loading the saves.
Hopefully, the author will probably fix numerous issues so that you can play this campaign on Reforged (SD mode only).

 

[K.GamingPlays]

Currently, you can only play this campaign with game version at least on 1.28.5. Same goes for the Forsaken.
Version higher than 1.28.5 has known issues where important triggers not working after loading the saves.
Hopefully, the author will probably fix numerous issues so that you can play this campaign on Reforged (SD mode only).

I am working with curse of the forsaken to fix some models and to add Reforged models for now its working in some chapters but after i finish this i will upload the gameplay of the campaign on my youtube chanel

 

[K.GamingPlays]

Lorthemar/ Blood Elf WarriorMr Tomoraider please take a look at this Lor'Themar model

 

[Nyctaeus]

Absolutely spectacular campaign and one of my most beloved. It functions in my mind as personal determinant of both community standard and the quality me and my brother tried to match in our own project - Exodus. Quel'Thalas arc is one of the experiences I remind from time to time since I played it for the first time years ago.

 

[LeDarkin]

I'd like to give a review of the Rise of the Blood Elves campaign: (review may contain spoilers)

Global enjoyment: I'm not gonna lie it wasn't catchy for me. I don't know why it got boring at some poing because the campaign is great
in itself (which I'm going to objectively talk about later on). Having to play some fel elves or wretched would've probably
make my opinion rise a lot. The boss fight in the end was not a big joy, the fact that there was no specific chapter
for this one is kinda disapointing. This was not the campaign made for me but it probably is for other people.
I had probably more expectations when starting it, there was a lack of diversity in my opinion. +0.25

Scenario: As always, an important part for me. This was well made, I didn't play WoW but I suppose it respects
the lore to a 100%. Cinematics are great, very good in fact, nothing is too much and you don't get lost in them.
That quest/hunger for power from Kael'thas is a nice plot to use but could've turned better with the use of fel elves
and wretched (the effort of making the soldier very thinn and drained in the models is appreciated and could've been more exploited).
Kael'thas kinda dies pathetically not gonna lie, this should've been done better because he made a pact with Kiljaeden
so he is not a weakling. Everyone around is kinda nice, Lady Liadrin is true to herself nice character, Lorthemar humble man
Aewynne is kinda childish looking, nothing too deep with this character and Alessandra being important in the role of the plot.
Evil side wise, Dark'han is really cool, him using wretched would've been cooler than just being a bad guy, there should've been
more things exploited in the cave with "experiences" that were sealed instead of just a big shade that Sylvanas kills.
Black Temple assault was cool, could've had the opportunity to play some demons but I guess not...
I haven't seen or don't remember any obvious syntax/grammar problem so it was nice. +0.75

Terrain: This is the best part of this campaign, the terrain was goddamn good. The use of enormous building, the use
of these custom curtains is so nice. The sunwell is so clean, the underground is aswell. Quel'thalas is very nice (a bit
tiny) there is nothing to say it's nearly perfect. +1

Techtree: Not much to say to be honest. Very classic techtree and buildings. The golems are very nice when they arrive
they are very powerfull and fun to use. The battle maid (is it the name?) with AOE armor and healing is cool. Phenix
is a cool unit, having different types of it would've been even better, some units are always left behind I guess. Nothing bad, nothing crazy. +0.5

Heroes: Kael'thas is very classic, I bring the fel elves aspect on the table again but having him use demonic power
would've been so nice. Alessandra had actually a very interesting kit, DPS mage role was cool but the fact that
you disable your auto attacks when using your Q is kinda anti-synergic. Lorthemar is neat, nothing to say. Lady
Liadrin is neat aswell, the best hero in fact. Aewynne is fulfiling her ranger role. +0.75

Difficulty: Everything was made in hard, its good, the bet is to not make things lame (I think one of the first mission
against Dark'han was lame but its the only exception). The crucial moments such as boss fights and survival are not guarenteed
wins so it makes them enjoyable and makes you think a bit. +1

Overall this is subjectively not made for me but is objectively very nice, I could recommend this to anyone. 4.25/5

 

[Eran]

Does anyone know where to download the 2.0 version of the game?

 

[K.GamingPlays]

Does anyone know where to download the 2.0 version of the game?

I think the 2.0 version is deleted